respect to u for even responding to this, i have such little patience for these kinds of complaints cos they are such fake problems. truly do not understand how a person can be experiencing grief from transphobia and somehow manage to blame it on other trans people.....
You make a lot of good points on social presentation, saftey, and gender roles. Portions of this were harder to accept, like the social effects of bodymoding/dressing as your assigned gender, but ultimately necessary because of the way our society is structered rn, under a strict binary system. Cant sum up everything you’ve written perfectly but please know it doesn’t go unappreciated.
I commend your ability to respond to this. As a trans man, I know it is too common for us to direct our frustrations about cis people's actions at trans women. I see a lot of trans men upset with a lack of visibility and feeling powerless to do anything about it which I think can be a product of inexperience with organizing and community building. We lose a lot of elders literally and superficially (to going stealth) in the transmasc community, but I personally witness a difference in online support for visibility of trans men vs trans women. By this I mean transmascs seem less organized in their communities and less likely to support their transmasc brothers online.
This person is talking a lot about cis people's visibility of transness, but if trans men actually came together to form community and uplift their brothers' voices I believe this sense of invisibility would be treated better than the current action plan of complaining to fellow trans men and throwing trans women and nonbinary people under the bus.
Bunny, what I'm hearing is that some trans men want more visibility. I am listening to this. I deleted your comment because it largely came off as an attack, which isn't something I have the energy for.
My post is an attempt to explain how the issues that are being experienced look different when they are taken in context of the wider trans community. Largely I agree that trans men are less visible than trans women, but I vehemently disagree with any suggestion that our increased visibility is a privilege when it is what directly causes disproportionate violence against us.
I am failing to understand how I am not listening to trans men or trans men of color. I am failing to understand how I am incorrect. I am failing to understand how recontextualizing an experience of transphobia through the lens of trans-inclusive intersectional feminism is harmful. Asking me repeatedly to listen to you is fine, but it has to be followed up by some sort of refute if I'm to understand what you are trying to communicate.
Bunny, I don't think you said anything that is in opposition to anything I wrote in this piece. I could comb through your comments and find minor points to disagree on or to request clarification on, but by-and-large, I'm not sure where your "listen to trans men!" vibe is coming from. I am listening and I will continue to listen. I am very down to empathize with and understand the experiences of trans mascs. I have learned from people in real life and I hope to continue to do so.
Again, this piece was about taking an MRA style attack against trans women (e.g. trans women are to blame for trans men's problems) and transforming that into a piece about how we're all in this shit together. I consistently refer to us as being in this together. Based on what you wrote above I don't understand what you disagree with or what would ask me to change about this.
respect to u for even responding to this, i have such little patience for these kinds of complaints cos they are such fake problems. truly do not understand how a person can be experiencing grief from transphobia and somehow manage to blame it on other trans people.....
You make a lot of good points on social presentation, saftey, and gender roles. Portions of this were harder to accept, like the social effects of bodymoding/dressing as your assigned gender, but ultimately necessary because of the way our society is structered rn, under a strict binary system. Cant sum up everything you’ve written perfectly but please know it doesn’t go unappreciated.
I commend your ability to respond to this. As a trans man, I know it is too common for us to direct our frustrations about cis people's actions at trans women. I see a lot of trans men upset with a lack of visibility and feeling powerless to do anything about it which I think can be a product of inexperience with organizing and community building. We lose a lot of elders literally and superficially (to going stealth) in the transmasc community, but I personally witness a difference in online support for visibility of trans men vs trans women. By this I mean transmascs seem less organized in their communities and less likely to support their transmasc brothers online.
This person is talking a lot about cis people's visibility of transness, but if trans men actually came together to form community and uplift their brothers' voices I believe this sense of invisibility would be treated better than the current action plan of complaining to fellow trans men and throwing trans women and nonbinary people under the bus.
This is just right
Bunny, what I'm hearing is that some trans men want more visibility. I am listening to this. I deleted your comment because it largely came off as an attack, which isn't something I have the energy for.
My post is an attempt to explain how the issues that are being experienced look different when they are taken in context of the wider trans community. Largely I agree that trans men are less visible than trans women, but I vehemently disagree with any suggestion that our increased visibility is a privilege when it is what directly causes disproportionate violence against us.
I am failing to understand how I am not listening to trans men or trans men of color. I am failing to understand how I am incorrect. I am failing to understand how recontextualizing an experience of transphobia through the lens of trans-inclusive intersectional feminism is harmful. Asking me repeatedly to listen to you is fine, but it has to be followed up by some sort of refute if I'm to understand what you are trying to communicate.
Bunny, I don't think you said anything that is in opposition to anything I wrote in this piece. I could comb through your comments and find minor points to disagree on or to request clarification on, but by-and-large, I'm not sure where your "listen to trans men!" vibe is coming from. I am listening and I will continue to listen. I am very down to empathize with and understand the experiences of trans mascs. I have learned from people in real life and I hope to continue to do so.
Again, this piece was about taking an MRA style attack against trans women (e.g. trans women are to blame for trans men's problems) and transforming that into a piece about how we're all in this shit together. I consistently refer to us as being in this together. Based on what you wrote above I don't understand what you disagree with or what would ask me to change about this.